>>>
a bold headline on the cover of the new republic this week. the republicans, the party of
white people
, and it's an art -- by the way, its art is clever ode to the beatles' album, the
white album
. in this article the author investigates the root of a phenomenon he's been covering on "hardball" and we've been covering, the increasingly
white male
isolated
republican party
. he says it's derived from the political strategy of the pre-
civil war
pro-slavery vice president
john calhoun
of
south carolina
. he writes, quote, this is the politics of nullification, the doctrine nearly as old as the republic itself that holds that the state singly or in concert can defy federal actions by declaring them invalid or simply ignoring them. we hear the echoes of nullification in the venting of anti-government passions and also in campaigns to starve government, curtail voter renl stration, repeal legislation, delegitimize presidents. the
sam
town is with me tonight. he's editor of the "new york times"
book review
and
willie brown
is the former
san francisco mayor
. thank you so much,
sam
, and mr. mayor, thaup as well.
sam
, this is amazing. i love trying to find out our roots politically. i wish i could do a television show, in fact, where every time there's a news story take us back to where it all started, and did you here so beautifully. we have people like
rick perry
and all across the south mouthing phrases like secession and nullification and it all goes back to those fights they had in the house and the senate in the
1850s
, but you have now pointed out this is now the stripe, sort of the
road map
the
republican party
has been taking since way back when.
>>
well, yes, chris. and great to be here, great to be here with the mayor. there's a terrible historical tragedy and paradox here. in the
1950s
as i say in the piece you read, republicans looked pretty good on
civil rights
under eisenhower, the brown decision, the
central high
and
little rock
where he did the tough thing and sent the troops in, and we had the first modern
civil rights act
. it wasn't great, it wasn't what lbj gave us, but it was somethi something. not one republican voted against that bill. think about it, what's happened. i'll tell you what happened, the
conservative movement
was born right then, and they decided the road not taken, they were not going to be pro-
civil rights
. they were not going to defend the rights of citizenship and
economic justice
and integration of african-americans in the south. no, they were going to side with the southern oppressors, and who was the great
philosopher king
of that argument?
john c. calhoun
. what happened? two things. first of all, the party which could have led the way on
civil rights
, the party of lincoln, turned away from it. also, they gave us this legacy of nullification, as you say. this nullifying government that we see today.
>>
you know, i thought, willie, mayor brown, i thought the smart thing in your piece i had never read before, mr. mayor, and i liked it about the piece in
sam
's article, was the fon confluence, a lot of libertarian thinking from
barry goldwater
,
leave me alone
, i don't like government. that got tied in states right. if you're an enemy of
federal power
you're on my side. a weird sick marriage between
leave me alone
and let's get together and nullify
civil rights
.
>>
that's essentially what the
republican party
stands for even today, as a matter of fact. in
sam
's piece, however, i think there should be a reference to the fact that during the
nixon administration
in reality the whole business of set asides, the whole business of what happens with reference to the
philadelphia plan
, all of that came because a guy named
george schultz
working for
nixon
put that together, and the republicans had a golden opportunity at that moment to really grab the leadership that lincoln had provided and by today
willie brown
may very well be saying positive things about the republicans.
>>
let's put that to
sam
. not only that, not only did they create basically
affirmative action
with the
philadelphia plan
, the screw the eye tish, italians, and their unions, they were up to trouble in some extent, going after the union leaders and they're locked out. unless you're nephew of a kid you're not getting a job there. moynihan gave
nixon
credit for ending the dual
school system
. how could they be going in that direction and at the same time playing the
southern strategy
with
strom thurmond
and those boys?
>>
that's why the great
gary wills
said
richard nixon
was the last liberal and there is a reference,
willie brown
is right, there should have been more, in a longer piece there would be more on that, on the
philadelphia plan
, but, yes,
affirmative action
, a phrase originated in the kennedy years, was seized on by the
nixon administration
. hey,
daniel patrick moynihan
said about
nixon
, this guy is not trying to undo the great society, he wants to outdo it. and what happened? ideologues within the
conservative movement
turned against
nixon
.
>>
well --
>>
women --
>>
let me go to
willie brown
. i know
nixon
. i'm not necessarily a
nixon
hater by any means. he was a member of the naacp in the '50s. pret friendly with
whitney young
, getting to know
martin luther king
ahead of the kennedys. and then becomes a totally mean guy in terms of
electoral politics
, hooking up with
strom thurmond
figuring he was going to grab what was left of the segregationists in the south when they were dispointed with the democrats. what happened to this guy?
>>
i think
sam
's piece clearly indicates that not only would a politician like
nixon
find it convenient to go in that direction for potential success, but politicians generally, chris, all of us tend to want to move in a direction that points to success. in
sam
's piece he talks about how kennedy clearly moved away from where he was as a liberal in massachusetts to try to make sure he didn't get tubed as he had been on the
vice presidential
nomination when he sought the
presidential nomination
. so we politicians are not like the moral standard on this issue.
>>
okay.
sam
, great piece. boy, you put a lot of work into these pieces. that is one heck of a
piece of work
. it should be a book. why don't you just blow it up and call it a book.
>>
thanks so much.
>>
i think it's fabulous.
>>>
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